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Wanting to build a short barreled rifle? We're here to help! We'll engrave a lower receiver with the required NFA engravings in an ATF approved location and font on a receiver of your choice. We can also color in the text with black so it looks factory, cerakote, or even engrave a custom logo and color fill it. This is the easiest way to legal SBR ownership and fulfilling the form 1 requirement to have the manufacturer (you) markings on the receiver. We have it bundled with Anderson or Spike's lowers, or choose any of the lowers we have in stock. Staying legal doesn't get any easier and we take the hassle out of getting your lower engraved and save you the extra shipping costs. Get your SBR build off to the right start and stay legal.
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So you, literally, manufactured that part of the rifle so you could fit it to your shoulder? Am I reading that right? I think that's called "a stock" in legal circles.
I think he said "so no need", not "so you could". Could be purely aesthetic.
And shouldering is not redesigning. An unsolicited legal opinion from the Executive Branch certainly may say otherwise. The Judicial Branch needs to rule on it. Wanna be the test case?
Try it with a real rifle caliber. 223 would never have been chosen as a military round before the age of full auto. Yes that's right AR-15s are a pointless homage to the M-16 which are fun but tactizero. Oops. cat. out. of. bag.
How about putting a pistol buffer tube on a pistol lower on the shoulder. Does that make the pistol buffer tube into a stock? What if I dont put it against my shoulder but put it more on my chest or collarbone. Would that somehow make my chest into my shoulder? By the ATF logic I should be allowed to put a short barrel on a lower with stock as long as I don't shoulder the stock. I know they don't allow it but since how you use it changes its classification a rifle that isn't shouldered shouldn't be considered a rifle.
ATF logic is if you place a stock shaped device against you shoulder it is a stock the same way if you plunge a kitchen knife into another human it becomes a weapon. No magic or "manufacturing" required.
So the answer is to deregulate short barrel anything and be done with this foolishness! Throw in suppressors while at it. Though at least ATF personnel would move those can forms quicker, given to 0 volume of SBR forms.
Bottom line, this is a great thing the ATF did for us, now someone just has to have the BALLS to challenge it.
Any freshman lawyer would beat this (shouldering is redesigning, you can bear your arms this way but you can't bear your arms that way).
OK, so they give a bunch of examples where they did this before with nailguns etc. Great, so get all that BS thrown out too.
We're on the winning movement people. Don't get fooled by this. This is a total backfoot move by the law-reinterpreting flipfloppers. Go SIG, they should be encouraged for challenging weird laws. We are a society of laws, it is our absolute right to challenge weird interpretations by flipfloppers.
Keep tying yourself in knots ATF by talking about smooth-bore pistols under a certain length etc., you're just showing up the idiocy of legal language which has no right to exist.
CHALLENGE THIS EDICT.
FALSE ADVERTISING!!!
Shouldering a pistol that has the sig brace has not been declared illegal. What is illegal is to convert into a pistol any firearm that was originally manufactured for use as a rifle. That has ALWAYS been the case since the NFA's SBR law took effect.
It remains perfectly legal to install a sig arm brace onto any firearm originally made as a pistol, and there is no prohibition against shouldering such a firearm.
Neither the law nor the position of the BATFE has changed concerning this issue.
For more information see http://www.thebangswitch.com/did-the-atf-contradict-itself/...
From your link: Where you can run afoul of the law is if you build your own firearm using a Sig brace and your intent is to use it as a rifle.
Agreed! Thank you for the clarification. And that is what the recent open letter from the ATF states. There is no problem so long as the intent is not to make an SBR.
Yes, as long as you don't intend on shouldering the Sig brace you are free and clear.
Exactly. We are perfectly free and legal to continue using pistols fitted with a Sig Arm Brace or other pistol arm braces. No SBR registration is required. This advertisement is very misleading. It ought to be removed.
The actual statement from the BATFE:
"Any person who intends to use a handgun stabilizing brace as a shoulder stock on a pistol (having a rifled barrel under 16 inches in length or a smooth bore firearm with a barrel under 18 inches in length) must first file an ATF Form 1 and pay the applicable tax because the resulting firearm will be subject to all provisions of the NFA."
Pathetic to think anyone would just give in so easy and submit to our overlords. Forget the ATF.
Eh, it was in jest a bit. I realize you can still use your pistol, but having an SBR is more fun anyways....The Sig brace was a way to just procrastinate getting your form 1 done...
It's still legal. You just can't shoulder the Sig brace
$50 for engraving, yikes! Ive had 3 lowers engraved and haven't spent that much total. Also didn't opt for the billboard look with the engraving on the side.
We can engrave anywhere, that's just an example
yeah, the ad should say, "buy a lower for $45 and we'll engrave it for $50 more"
The Sig brace was never ment to be shouldered....
That being said, why would you not be able to use your AR pistols with buffer tube....so long as it is not shouldered?? Am I missing something? I know that recently the Singh brothers we arrested for something relating to this but they were colorful guys too....
never used a sig shoulder brace, my buffer is exactly 3 inches longer then a stock buffer tube, self milled :) so no need it fits my shoulder just fine with a foam padding on it... no magical crap required